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      CommentAuthorBenito
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    man i gotta give you guys props who posted on the SLOG.. i can't even get thru a few postings without wanting to throw my computer off the balconyBenito x 800LB x Massive Monkees x SoulGorilla DymeDef
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      CommentAuthorMack Long
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    enabled:If it was up to the police, they would warn against every hip-hop show. The problem I've seen with that is that when they show up looking to go on the offensive, it often irritates a crowd and creates an increased negative energy, which in turn destroys the positive atmosphere at many hip-hop shows.


    this EXACT scenario happened at a show at Waldos north a few months ago"Try not to suck any dick on the way to class!"
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    I wasn't going to post anything but I'm glad to us unite like this.

    RIP 29-E "You didn't deserve to go out like that you will not be forgotten"

    Prez I faith that you will pull through. Me and fam will continue to pray for you.

    Glad truama is good.I'm not trying to fit in and to be honest, I don't want to!
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      CommentAuthorD-SANE
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    the bad cuzin:"There were rumors circulating about the show and people told me not to put it on," the promoter says. "Some of these people are from down south and some of them are from the Central District


    so BK is this true or not


    Well since Kountry doesn't want to explain, and it has been brought up numerous times in the media reports, I will explain where I believe the source of this rumor is stemming from.

    On Saturday afternoon, Kountry was sending out his promo txt msgs about the show. I replied back to one of them and said (jokingly) "You better wear a vest tonight...it could get ugly." He replied back "Why do you say that?" I explained to him that there is a war raging between the Central District & the South End and since there were artists on the bill who are affiliated with those areas, there could potentially be some problems. I wasn't saying that there was definitely going to be problems, just the possibility. I told him..."Don't stress out about it, just stay on your toes and keep your eyes open tonight." These artists perform shows all the time around town without incident, but in light of the recent CD - South End turmoil (which Kountry is not familiar with), I suggested a little more caution than usual. Mostly because of the location of the club (Central District). I was more worried about some of the people from the CD doing a drive-by on the place than anything actually happening inside or around the club.

    Immediately after the shooting, Kountry apparently made some comments to some IDIOT affiliated with The Stranger. One of which that was taken out of context was the comment about how he had supposedly been "warned not to proceed with the show," which is a LIE. Kountry must have mentioned my commentary to the Stranger guy and it was interpreted as a warning to stop the show. How this has turned into "Police warned him...blah, blah, blah" I don't know. IT'S NOT TRUE. It was a simple comment from me basically telling him to exercise a little more caution than usual that night. Why he mentioned my commentary to the Stranger guy, I don't know, but they put a spin on it and here we are now.

    In the end, this had nothing to do with the CD - South End war.Musical Madman - www.myspace.com/d_sane
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      CommentAuthorNeema
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    ......im gonna keep my mouth shut i really wanna go kammikaze right now fuck all this shit fuck it all and fuck all the goddamn hypocrites.

    FOR REALZSince 02 I been killing em in the clubs
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    D-SANE:
    the bad cuzin:"There were rumors circulating about the show and people told me not to put it on," the promoter says. "Some of these people are from down south and some of them are from the Central District


    so BK is this true or not


    Well since Kountry doesn't want to explain, and it has been brought up numerous times in the media reports, I will explain where I believe the source of this rumor is stemming from.

    On Saturday afternoon, Kountry was sending out his promo txt msgs about the show. I replied back to one of them and said (jokingly) "You better wear a vest tonight...it could get ugly." He replied back "Why do you say that?" I explained to him that there is a war raging between the Central District & the South End and since there were artists on the bill who are affiliated with those areas, there could potentially be some problems. I wasn't saying that there was definitely going to be problems, just the possibility. I told him..."Don't stress out about it, just stay on your toes and keep your eyes open tonight." These artists perform shows all the time around town without incident, but in light of the recent CD - South End turmoil (which Kountry is not familiar with), I suggested a little more caution than usual. Mostly because of the location of the club (Central District). I was more worried about some of the people from the CD doing a drive-by on the place than anything actually happening inside or around the club.

    Immediately after the shooting, Kountry apparently made some comments to some IDIOT affiliated with The Stranger. One of which that was taken out of context was the comment about how he had supposedly been "warned not to proceed with the show," which is a LIE. Kountry must have mentioned my commentary to the Stranger guy and it was interpreted as a warning to stop the show. How this has turned into "Police warned him...blah, blah, blah" I don't know. IT'S NOT TRUE. It was a simple comment from me basically telling him to exercise a little more caution than usual that night. Why he mentioned my commentary to the Stranger guy, I don't know, but they put a spin on it and here we are now.

    In the end, this had nothing to do with the CD - South End war.

    Thank you D....that makes a lot more sencethe freak show feb.26 be there
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      CommentAuthorslump
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    it was good to see all of you who were at the meeting.

    I think the slog post by eli is a shade off the mark. I cant speak for anyone else but I attended because I wanted to see friends who I knew were shaken up. I went to get grounded. I wanted to hear what people had to say, and to see what suggestions would come to light, to see what action might be decided upon after a bit of 'group-think'. I wasnt there to spin control the media, I'm not part of some west wing press corps squad, sheesh.

    anyway, when I woke up today, my hopes and thoughts were with Prez; stay strong and pull through, man.
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    I was there to fool the white man into thinking guns don't kill people, lyrics do.The Slow Clap picks up pace... MySpace.com/Fridge
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      CommentAuthorJustis
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    first off, condolences to the families having to deal with another senseless act of violence. as an artist this shit is assbackwards. as a human this shit is assbackwards. as a devote fan of hip-hop this shit is ASSBACKWARDS. i've been hearing people talk about seattle not having street cred for the longest time. maybe saturday night can put into perspective the reality of that lifestyle. people are losing their lives for nothing. this brings the whole area down, it doesn't matter where you live. why make this a shittier place to do music..JUSTISTWITTER
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      CommentAuthordawson
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    i'm only about 30 comments into reading the "shooting at chop" slog post, but at the point i stopped reading to post this (edit) WE were taking a drubbing.

    there's a lot more to this than winning an argument in a comments section, and i suggest you abstain rather than run train on the dirty girl without proper logical safeguards.

    here's a pretty smart loser of many a heated argument asking that 206proof's paragraph ambassadors consolidate offensive touches in the more more rhetorically prudent and knowledgeable among you. i'm a seasoned smartass and i can tell you that dismissing white knights saddled atop steeds as high as these as "ignorant" and "stupid" without the pike and finesse to unhorse them is fuccery of the highest order at this brand of round table.

    if you've got something to say, tell gatsworth or ashley.lux brand sample sales
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      CommentAuthorBarfly
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    slump:
    I think the slog post by eli is a shade off the mark. I cant speak for anyone else but I attended because I wanted to see friends who I knew were shaken up. I went to get grounded. I wanted to hear what people had to say, and to see what suggestions would come to light, to see what action might be decided upon after a bit of 'group-think'. I wasnt there to spin control the media, I'm not part of some west wing press corps squad, sheesh.


    I knew we would be seeing exactly that take when I saw him there. Us addressing victims needs is far less likely to attract page views and comments as "ZOMFG! Special Ed Cabal With Laptops!"Why the hell does it need to be about "Teams" Lar?
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      CommentAuthorgrendel
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    I actually like Eli's article...his comments about the Clinton team are a positive thing...go watch the documentary.reppin artists since 007 Saku Collins Entertainment & Media Law Group - Blogger at Les métaphores de la tristesse
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    I guess he was culture shocked when we weren't all selling crack, pistol whipping hoes and making it rain dolla dolla bills, ya'll.The Slow Clap picks up pace... MySpace.com/Fridge
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      CommentAuthorOnAMission
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Billy the Fridge:I guess he was culture shocked when we weren't all selling crack, pistol whipping hoes and making it rain dolla dolla bills, ya'll.



    I was chilling in the corner doing all of the above all night long!ryanonamission.blogspot.com
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    "all" is the operative word... can't stop tha hustleThe Slow Clap picks up pace... MySpace.com/Fridge
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      CommentAuthorgatsworth
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    how many of us brought guns? i wanted to choke somebody when the motherfucker said that

    i think eli meant it positively, it just got turned to something else.BANG THE BASS FUCK THE NEIGHBORS
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      CommentAuthorslump
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    grendel:I actually like Eli's article...his comments about the Clinton team are a positive thing...go watch the documentary.

    I cant agree, I dont think the meeting was like that at all. two entirely different creatures, even if he meant it as a compliment
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      CommentAuthorM SEA
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    i made it rain fries on his pants

    no homo[b]dawson:[/b] i respect the vivid detail with which your imagination is able to render another man's penis
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      CommentAuthordj100proof
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    The convo on the SLOG has just taken a turn for the :shocked:

    White privilege, slavery and voting for Obama now seem to be at the heart of this crisis. Thanks for clearing that up guisedj100proof.com - MEMBERS ONLY - Twitter
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      CommentAuthorcatalyst
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Judging from that slog comments, Sounds like people are scared and this is the best way to make sense of it. Not very bright. Just killed my inclination about 85% of the Seattle town folk being smart cause they wore glasses, lol.Hawk A Lougie
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      CommentAuthorM SEA
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    WE THE PROOF HAVE SUCCEEDED AS THE SMARTEST PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET.

    FEAST![b]dawson:[/b] i respect the vivid detail with which your imagination is able to render another man's penis
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      CommentAuthorMack Long
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    UPDATE (sort of):

    Prez's mom is supposed to be getting into town around 6:30 or 7:00. I'm heading down to the hospital around 9:00 to hopefully catch some news, along with several others. I'm not suggesting that a large group of people should bombard and completely overwhelm her because she is obviously here to see her son, and not all of us, but I'm sure she would be touched to see the love and support from anyone that would like to meet us down there around that time, so that she knows her son is not alone out here."Try not to suck any dick on the way to class!"
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    In a way I feel like maybe a handful of us that are close to Prez should be there. Why? Having a ton of people the night she arrives is a nice thing, but at the same time I feel maybe it will overwhelm her. My opinion is a handful show up and ask when a good time/day would be for her comfort for us to start visiting.

    I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Just want to respect her space and let her be with Avery and settle in.

    Money I do agree you would be a good one to introduce yourself and let her know how were all feeling. I would love to as well, but it might make me feel uncomfortable until I know she is ready for all of us. Prez is my dude and want to be there for him all I can, but only when his mother is O.K. with it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but trying to look out for her feelings also. I couldn't imagine being on a plane thinking about what just occurred to her son and she probably has a lot of questions.Roll the dice in life
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      CommentAuthorgatsworth
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
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      CommentAuthordawson
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    seems like he had a completely innocuous gun offense. no biggie to melux brand sample sales
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      CommentAuthorMack Long
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    UPDATE:

    I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that recently spoke with Prez's grandmother, who offered up some information for us. Prez was shot twice; once in the chest and once in the neck. The bullet in his chest went through his lung and his liver, and they've performed several surgeries to stop the internal bleeding and to remove the blood that's been pooling in his stomach, and will continue to do so while it's still needed. The neck wound is superficial and didn't cause much damage. His vital signs are strong and the hospital staff remain optimistic about his outcome.

    And I'm pretty sure I just said that we should be careful as to not overwhelm Prez's mother with a large group of people at the hospital, but please believe I will be there tonight so that she knows that there are people here to care about him and want him to pull though. I encourage anybody else that wants to to do the same. Just step lightly, chill, and be patient."Try not to suck any dick on the way to class!"
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      CommentAuthorNeema
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
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      CommentAuthorOnAMission
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Mack Long:UPDATE:

    I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that recently spoke with Prez's grandmother, who offered up some information for us. Prez was shot twice; once in the chest and once in the neck. The bullet in his chest went through his lung and his liver, and they've performed several surgeries to stop the internal bleeding and to remove the blood that's been pooling in his stomach, and will continue to do so while it's still needed. The neck wound is superficial and didn't cause much damage. His vital signs are strong and the hospital staff remain optimistic about his outcome.

    And I'm pretty sure I just said that we should be careful as to not overwhelm Prez's mother with a large group of people at the hospital, but please believe I will be there tonight so that she knows that there are people here to care about him and want him to pull though. I encourage anybody else that wants to to do the same. Just step lightly, chill, and be patient.


    Thanks for the update Money...Sounds like he's doing good...ryanonamission.blogspot.com
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      CommentAuthorBarfly
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Dominic Holden's posted a Slog article about last night.

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/05/no_statement_yet_from_hiphop_c

    He's even posted in the comments and his take on things is pretty damned tuned in.

    You guys should read his comments. It was like seeing sunshine after spending the entire day chained to a waterheater in the basement.

    Or something like that.Why the hell does it need to be about "Teams" Lar?
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      CommentAuthorD-SANE
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Prez's mom doesn't need a welcoming party and I don't think that more than 2 or 3 of you who are personal friends of his should go down there to the hospital.Musical Madman - www.myspace.com/d_sane
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      CommentAuthorkitty wu
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    D-SANE:Prez's mom doesn't need a welcoming party and I don't think that more than 2 or 3 of you who are personal friends of his should go down there to the hospital.
    complete cosign.they were all...ergo...vis-à-vis...concordantly!!! and then there's me
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      CommentAuthorD-SANE
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Barfly:Dominic Holden's posted a Slog article about last night.

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/05/no_statement_yet_from_hiphop_c

    He's even posted in the comments and his take on things is pretty damned tuned in.

    You guys should read his comments. It was like seeing sunshine after spending the entire day chained to a waterheater in the basement.

    Or something like that.


    There's just something that really rubbed me the wrong way about Sonny's comment on the last line there.Musical Madman - www.myspace.com/d_sane
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      CommentAuthorae.k.ae
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Barfly:Dominic Holden's posted a Slog article about last night.

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/05/no_statement_yet_from_hiphop_c

    He's even posted in the comments and his take on things is pretty damned tuned in.

    You guys should read his comments. It was like seeing sunshine after spending the entire day chained to a waterheater in the basement.

    Or something like that.


    this is a definite improvement. i appreciate how dominic also responded in the slog comment section as well.And now more dangerous & flavorful!
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    I wonder what would have happen if I hosted this show?

    Shits crazy.

    Yeah when your son is in critical condition the last thing you want to see is a whole bunch of strangers that have love for her son "overwhelming". I don't know if Prez has any females that are real close to him but maybe ya'll should her go out there so his moms can have someone to hug and fully vent to.I'm not trying to fit in and to be honest, I don't want to!
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      CommentAuthorNeema
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    "

    There's just something that really rubbed me the wrong way about Sonny's comment on the last line there."

    this is new to you?Since 02 I been killing em in the clubs
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      CommentAuthorD-SANE
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    I love Sonny...but he just says some really ignorant shit sometimes.Musical Madman - www.myspace.com/d_sane
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    Whats his name on the slog?I'm not trying to fit in and to be honest, I don't want to!
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      CommentAuthorMack Long
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    D-SANE:I love Sonny...but he just says some really ignorant shit sometimes.

    :cosign:

    and i never suggested a welcoming party. i'll be at harborview tonight."Try not to suck any dick on the way to class!"
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      CommentAuthorMack Long
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    Speedy The Artist:Whats his name on the slog?


    his comment was the last line of the article.

    this was NOT Kountry's fault."Try not to suck any dick on the way to class!"
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      CommentAuthordawson
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    i hope whatever preparation you guys came up with for community backlash doesn't include "it could happen anywhere! if it wasn't at this hip hop show it would be at his house away from large crowds of people irrelevant to the issue (two of whom appear to have been hit in this instance)" or arguments like "they don't talk about shutting down the bite of seattle" like implying that we're not the only bad branch means we won't get pruned. suggesting that police protection of events where rappers are discouraging cooperation with law enforcement and glorifying violent idiocy isn't going to do wonders for public standing, either.

    jesus this is shitty. i hope prez recovers for his sake and the community'slux brand sample sales
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      CommentAuthorBarfly
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    D-SANE:
    There's just something that really rubbed me the wrong way about Sonny's comment on the last line there.


    Yeah, nothing against anyone in particular but out of everyone in attendance it seemed pretty obvious to me that we needed a moritorium on issuing personal statements and we needed one person (IMO, Lar) to speak on shit if and when.

    I cringed when I looked around and saw the huddle break and it was off into people making press statements and filming youtubes and shit.

    We just fucking get done signing off on the idea of not releasing a statement and then motherfuckers are going on record.

    Whatever. I laughed. Schadenfreude, but I laughed. Most important thing is we got some footing on what we can do to help the victims and their families and got to air out some of our sadness.Why the hell does it need to be about "Teams" Lar?
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      CommentAuthorD-SANE
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
     
    Mack Long:
    D-SANE:I love Sonny...but he just says some really ignorant shit sometimes.

    :cosign:

    and i never suggested a welcoming party. i'll be at harborview tonight.


    I know you didn't bro...that comment was just a general discouragement to anybody else who might be considering going down there. Personally I think it should be you, Neema and maybe somebody else who goes down there...but that's up to y'all.Musical Madman - www.myspace.com/d_sane
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      CommentAuthorOnAMission
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    This was not Kountry's fault at all that this happend...maybe and i repeat MAYBE if it was an artist that was on the show that was doing the shooting then maybe at that point it could be the promoters fault. but a show promoter is not responsible for the entire audience. Thats why security is there. However I do agree that they will catch the blame for it all when its all said and done...But it is a promoters job to pick a responsible lineup of act's and provide the best show for the fan's as he/she can...ryanonamission.blogspot.com
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    Mack Long:
    Speedy The Artist:Whats his name on the slog?


    his comment was the last line of the article.

    this was NOT Kountry's fault.
    Ahhh got it thanks. :shocked:I'm not trying to fit in and to be honest, I don't want to!
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      CommentAuthorOnAMission
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Barfly:
    D-SANE:
    There's just something that really rubbed me the wrong way about Sonny's comment on the last line there.


    Yeah, nothing against anyone in particular but out of everyone in attendance it seemed pretty obvious to me that we needed a moritorium on issuing personal statements and we needed one person (IMO, Lar) to speak on shit if and when.

    I cringed when I looked around and saw the huddle break and it was off into people making press statements and filming youtubes and shit.

    We just fucking get done signing off on the idea of not releasing a statement and then motherfuckers are going on record.

    Whatever. I laughed. Schadenfreude, but I laughed. Most important thing is we got some footing on what we can do to help the victims and their families and got to air out some of our sadness.



    exact reason I didnt give him a quote from me...and also why I wouldnt be taped sayin anything also...ryanonamission.blogspot.com
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      CommentAuthorae.k.ae
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    OnAMission:But it is a promoters job to pick a responsible lineup of act's and provide the best show for the fan's as he/she can...


    absolutely.And now more dangerous & flavorful!
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      CommentAuthordawson
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    a promoter is responsible for promoting a product. it's going to make his job a lot harder if that product is perceived to include murder.

    mothers should never have to lose their kidslux brand sample sales
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      CommentAuthorkitty wu
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
     
    Barfly:I cringed when I looked around and saw the huddle break and it was off into people making press statements and filming youtubes and shit.
    agreed, it was weird and i don't look down on anyone that did give statements, i didn't see the point after the meeting we had had and asking everything to stay off the record.

    it was disconcerting. :sad:they were all...ergo...vis-à-vis...concordantly!!! and then there's me
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    whats wrong with an idea of putting an official stamp on a hip-hop flyer that promotes non-violence. this is what i brought up in the meeting. some awareness...

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